Full episode
615: The Beginning of Now
Act Two

Who Tells Your Story?

For years Pat Buchanan ran on many of the same ideas that Donald Trump would later run on. Buchanan lost — three times. Trump won. Why? Is Buchanan jealous? And does he think Trump’s election is the beginning of a new normal, or a small blip in the course of history? Ira and Zoe visit his home to ask him. (14 minutes)

Song:

“How It Starts” by Cameo Culture
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