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852: Pivot Point

Prologue

Kirk Johnson tells Ira about a strange choice he made during his family’s evacuation from the Sunset Fire in Los Angeles. (5 minutes)

Act Four: Since You’ve Been Gone

In the wake of the Eaton Fire in Altadena, California, producer Miki Meek talks to a woman on a very particular mission. (6 minutes)We first heard about Vanessa's story in the Associated Press.