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March 3, 2017

Vague and Confused

A show about rules and what happens when they’re vague and randomly enforced.

The Hawaiian island of Niihau

Prologue

The Department of Homeland Security’s new policies on deportation have sown fear and confusion among undocumented immigrants. Ira Glass and Lilly Sullivan go to Chicago and meet a family trying to navigate the situation. No one knows what to expect. (12 minutes)

A Dave in Court

A judge in a suburban New Jersey courtroom wants the people who come before him to see the rules as fair. Including our reporter, David Kestenbaum. (19 minutes)

Song:

“If I Ruled the World (Imagine That)” by Nas feat. Lauryn Hill
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