78 October 3, 1997 How Bad Is Bad? How bad is bad enough to count? To go to hell? Download Control-click (or right-click) Tap and hold to download Subscribe on Spotify Subscribe in Apple Podcasts Transcript AmateurX Act One How Bad Is Stealing $800? Host Ira Glass talks to three teenage boys who buy computer equipment using stolen credit card numbers. (14 minutes) ByIra Glass Act Two Golden Peacock We told Chicago playwright Jeff Dorchen about what the three boys in Act One said, and he created a brief original radio play picking up where they left off. (10 minutes) ByJeff Dorchen Act Three How Bad Is This Relationship? The people of Chicago speak out. (5 minutes) ByIra Glass Act Four How Bad Is That Movie? Howard Rabinowitz and The Truth About Cats and Dogs. (4 minutes) ByIra Glass Act Five Act Five First, an interview with Jim Nelson, then, an interview with Eli, a computer hacker who was thrown in prison by federal authorities for his crimes. (23 minutes) ByIra Glass Related If you enjoyed this episode, you may like these 2: Small Scale Sin Nov. 24, 1995 Act One The Golden Peacock. 10: Double Lives Jan. 17, 1996 Act Four: Sins Of The Fathers Susan Bergman returns to read an excerpt from her book. 259: Promised Land Feb. 20, 2004 Act One: Across the Street From Heaven Contributor Starlee Kine tells a story about getting as close to one promised land—Disneyland—as you possibly can, without actually going in. Staff RecommendationsView all 570 Oct. 16, 2015 The Night in Question Conspiracy theories about the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin continue to shape Israel's politics and future. 560 July 3, 2015 Abdi and the Golden Ticket A story about someone who's desperately trying – against long odds – to make it to the United States and become an American.