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834: Yousef and the Fourth Move
Act Two

Act Two

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The actual price — in cash — of getting out of Gaza. (31 minutes)

Reporter Chana Joffe-Walt talks to reporters from the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project and Mada Masr.

Song:

“I Don’t Know What the Weather Will Be” by Laura Mvula (radio only)

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Mohammed Mhawish, a reporter who left Gaza a year ago with his family, talks to a young woman in Gaza about how she manages her hunger. Israel blockaded all food from Gaza for more than two months. (15 minutes)Mohammed Mhawish is a contributing writer for The Nation, which is where we first read about his experiences with hunger in "What It Feels Like to Starve."
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