Full episode
620: To Be Real
Act One

How I Learned To Start Worrying and Fear the Bomb

Earlier this month, North Korea fired an intercontinental ballistic missile… one powerful enough, news reports said, to reach Alaska. People were shocked. But maybe that was because we were not being real with ourselves about what was going on in North Korea. How did we get to this point? Producer David Kestenbaum has been listening to a podcast called Arms Control Wonk that explains it. (17 1/2 minutes)

Song:

“Marrow” by Ani DiFranco