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617: Fermi’s Paradox
Act Two

Two Can Be as Sad as One

We turn now to one of the loneliest experiences a person can have: marriage. Ira listens to two people trying to break through what’s going wrong in their marriage, an excerpt from a new podcast in which real couples have a real therapy session with a real therapist, Esther Perel. Her podcast is Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel. (20 minutes)